Shorebird - July 8th, Horry County, SC

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Russell Burgess Coastal Preserve, Little River, South Carolina, USA. July 8th, 2026. A tidal estuary at low tide.

I was trying my camera's digital zoom to see how useful it might be. This is a screenshot of a photo of a Great Egret and the bird on the right that's giving me trouble. In the field I called it a Willet . Looking at the photos, the bill seems too long, it seems too large when compared to the GREG, and the color seems off somehow. The legs aren't yellow, and it doesn't seem chunky enough for a dowitcher.

Thanks for any related feedback!
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Could you post the original photo?
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lonesome55dove wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:35 pm Could you post the original photo?
Well, I tried but the file is 9 megabytes and there's a 5 meg limit on attachments. i'm trying to find a way to reduce the file size without compromising image quality or size.

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lonesome55dove wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:35 pm Could you post the original photo?
Try this link, please. I don't share files regularly and I'm not sure if the security is correct. Just because the link works for me, the file owner, doesn't mean it will work for others.

https://1drv.ms/i/c/cd3eb7316c3d2287/IQ ... I?e=Bb6LVO
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Ok, thanks!
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Charlie Spencer wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 3:51 pm Thanks for any related feedback!
Sorry, I can't help with the ID, but I do have some feedback related to the use of digital zoom. I think it has its time and place, but I have always viewed it as a last resort and seldom actually used it. If you're evaluating it's usefulness try comparing a shot at max zoom, 600mm, that you can crop to match the framing of a digitally zoomed shot of the same scene. Digital zoom is basically 'in camera' cropping which is probably best compared to similarly framed 'out of camera' cropping. At a certain distance one will provide far superior image quality over the other, but you'd need to take some comparison shots to figure all that out. Filling the frame as much as possible with our subjects usually helps capture as much detail as possible, sometimes digital zoom can help in that regard. Digital zoom can also create a pixelated mess if it's pushed too far so use with caution, or experiment more than I did so that you can use it, or not use, it with confidence.
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Lonestranger wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:02 pm Sorry, I can't help with the ID,
Of course you can''t, but you keep trying, Champ! :P
Lonestranger wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:02 pm I think it has its time and place, but I have always viewed it as a last resort and seldom actually used it.
Agreed but it 'had been a couple of years since I tried it and thought I'd take another look. The camera has two digital options, and I took three shots with each of them, along with optical only. I was reminded why I don't use those features, but sometimes I need those reminders.

For me, it's time and place is as a crude spotting scope, sometimes useful for long-range ID but I don't trigger the shutter.
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Ok, thanks. The file worked for me.

Just throwing this out to see where it lands... maybe? Marbled Godwit?

Bing visual says Buff-breasted Sandpiper, but I say no. Your bird doesn't have yellow legs, and the bill appears too long for the sandpiper.
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lonesome55dove wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:33 pm Ok, thanks. The file worked for me.

Just throwing this out to see where it lands... maybe? Marbled Godwit?

Bing visual says Buff-breasted Sandpiper, but I say no. Your bird doesn't have yellow legs, and the bill appears too long for the sandpiper.
Buff-breasted has been reported only a half dozen times along a 150-mile stretch of coastline, not at all in the last 15 years.

Marbled Godwit would be highly unlikely but there are scattered reports along the coast every year in July, including this hotspot. While I like the possibility, I don't think this photo would be acceptable evidence.
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Why not Hugo
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I didn't realize that Western Willets migrate to the East Coast. I've been looking at Eastern Willets but can't quite make a match. Could it be a Western?
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Kansabirdguy wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:03 amWhy not Hugo
I have literally no clue what this post means in the context of the original photo. If I can't identify the species, it seems kind of disrespectful to ask the bird for its first name.
lonesome55dove wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 1:21 am I didn't realize that Western Willets migrate to the East Coast. I've been looking at Eastern Willets but can't quite make a match. Could it be a Western?
Dang it, now you've forced me to look up the difference between them, something I've been pushing to the back burner for a couple of years.

Someone posted at BirdForum that female Willets have longer bills than male, so that has me leaning away from godwits.
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Charlie Spencer wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 10:25 am
Kansabirdguy wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:03 amWhy not Hugo
I have literally no clue what this post means in the context of the original photo. If I can't identify the species, it seems kind of disrespectful to ask the bird for its first name.
I meant Hudsonian godwit๐Ÿ˜‚
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I agree with Hudsonian Godwit. If you go into Merlin at the following link & look at the juvenile in the second picture it looks like a pretty good match for your bird;

https://merlinbirds.org/species/hudgod

The white near the vent & chest match up well & the rest of the plumage doesn't look "distinctive" enough for a Marbled. Personally think the bill is to long for Willet too even for a female.
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stitch58 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 12:26 am I agree with Hudsonian Godwit. If you go into Merlin at the following link & look at the juvenile in the second picture it looks like a pretty good match for your bird;

https://merlinbirds.org/species/hudgod

The white near the vent & chest match up well & the rest of the plumage doesn't look "distinctive" enough for a Marbled. Personally think the bill is to long for Willet too even for a female.

I have a question: even with the quality of the screenshot/photo, wouldn't the black tail be visible for a Hudsonian? Thanks!
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Kansabirdguy wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 12:32 pm I meant Hudsonian godwit๐Ÿ˜‚
stitch58 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 12:26 am I agree with Hudsonian Godwit.
I might have possibly convinced myself this is a MAGO. HUGO is unholy rare on the Carolinas coast in the middle of summer, six sightings total.
lonesome55dove wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:37 am I have a question: even with the quality of the screenshot/photo, wouldn't the black tail be visible for a Hudsonian? Thanks!
With the (lack of) quality of the photo, I've decided the bird is unidentifiable based solely on this image. I'm still leaning strongly toward Willet, it's more likely than MAGO by several orders of magnitude, and there were at least three others in the area.

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SirVive wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 5:58 am "Your call is important to us. Please remain on the line."

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lonesome55dove wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:37 am
stitch58 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2026 12:26 am I agree with Hudsonian Godwit. If you go into Merlin at the following link & look at the juvenile in the second picture it looks like a pretty good match for your bird;

https://merlinbirds.org/species/hudgod

The white near the vent & chest match up well & the rest of the plumage doesn't look "distinctive" enough for a Marbled. Personally think the bill is to long for Willet too even for a female.

I have a question: even with the quality of the screenshot/photo, wouldn't the black tail be visible for a Hudsonian? Thanks!
Yes youโ€™re right, should also have darker wingtips.
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This is 100% a willet
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Re: Shorebird - July 8th, Horry County, SC

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A little late to the party but yes, I agree with ikland, Willet.
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